SP-8...

[Matt]

Your thoughts on this thing? Anyone?

[pistolpete]

I still try to avoid Smart Parts but it looks like all it is is a dressed up Ion. There are an awful lot of Ions out there and I have herd both good and bad so I think it is still too early to tell about them.

Matt, did you ever get your ProCarbine back from Punisher? How did it turn out?

[freelance]

Dude, post up a pic so we can see what you are talking about.

Out here,

Free Lance

[evilelvis]

The SP-8 is Smart part's MILSIM venture (and they say MILSIM is dead) It's an Electro it has Semi, 3 rd Burst, Full auto and a Bounce trigger setting. JCS jas their own version of this Marker based on the "shelved" Army's xm-8 concept a replacement for the M-16 family of markers. The Marker was a Radical Design all in Soft and Hard Plastics. I heard some scuddel but that they had some heating and warping and melting problems. The gun design is a radical take off from the M-16/M-4 family.

HK is making a revamped M-4 that incorporates the reliable HK Closed Bolt and more Efficient Gas tube design. It's looks 80% like the current M-4 and it looks like the the most solid contender. Since Marine's sence of memories and a lot of the parts are already in the System.

[pistolpete]

All it is is an Ion with a milsim shell.

[skunkwerx]

Aw man, that sucks. I wanted a Milsim gun with an Ion's shell. drats.

[Rock Slide]

Screw Smart Parts. I say the military should sue them for copying a real weapon.

[Matt]

Well damn, I need to find a gun!

No my procarbine is gone forever I fear.

[Matt]

"Well it is always sad to see a situation come to this. In late 2001 I sent a paintball marker (gun) off to get worked on by him. He said it would be a month or two until it was done. Needless to say he has never sent the gun back, and he has banned me from his internet forum. This was the last draw for me. Not only is he not getting back to me on my many email attempts, but he has now shut me off totally. I have a log of many of my emails to him (to a university web address), including emails pertaining to payments I made to him. I am not so concerned about the money spent as getting my equipment back, though a refund would be a nice bonus. If I cannot get me equiptment back, I would like to get the money in parts back, mainly because alot of those parts cannot be had anymore.

My info:
Matt Szabaga
3191 Steamboat Ridge Rd
Port Orange, FL 32128
386-299-3371

My detailed gun info can be seen here. He has ALL of the parts on the gun too:
procarbine.cjb.net
floridamu.org/matt/mygun.html

His shop address is:
Lee Kinney
2079 NW Aloclek
Suite 1012
Hillsboro, OR 97124

His web address/email:
punishers-customs.com
[e-mail]

I do not have a phone number for him.

I am wondering how I should go about dealing with this problem or how you can help me resolve this situation? Feel free to write back or call my phone at any time. If you could, I would like to get a phone number for him, as I cannot find one. Thanks for any help and I look foward to further correspondances.
-Matt Szabaga"

I just sent that. Oh and Shorty PM me ASAP please.

[pistolpete]

I will give him an email, Nobody also might have some info on him.

[skunkwerx]

I know someone who sent 2 or 3 guns to someone for work,
never got them back, and never even got the courtesy of an Email.

That kinda thing sucks.

[dredly]

I lost 1...

[Matt]

skunkwerx said:

Aw man, that sucks. I wanted a Milsim gun with an Ion's shell. drats.

Haha, you crack me up Pic.

[nobody]

i know Lee. Matt, if you want, i can get a hold of him, either through the Tinker's Guild or through Have Blue and find out about it. or atleast at as a mediator about it. i thought the Carbine was complete and you had it. that sucks big time.

as for me, i have 1 gun MIA(some where in the land of AirTipps; between New Mexico and Old Mexico)

[Matt]

Yea please Nobody. I don't want to have to revert to calling his whole family ten times a day, but I will. ;D

That or getting our importing company's retained lawyer to send him some friendlyness.

[Matt]

Palmer Blazer?

[shawnakatut]

just buy a tippman A5 and go to specialops.com or ops gear and dress it up.

[Matt]

shawnakatut said:

just buy a tippman A5 and go to specialops.com or ops gear and dress it up.

Too normal.

[skunkwerx]

Use an SL68II, with Superchromium. (Scares the hell outta the indigenous populants.)
And Wagner is a must, always play Wagner when your attacking.

And don't lead em too much.

And, lastly , always remember, Charlie don't Surf!!!

[Matt]

skunkwerx said:

And don't lead em too much.

How can you kill innocent women and children like that??

[hwayhzrd]

shawnakatut said:

just buy a tippman A5 and go to specialops.com or ops gear and dress it up.

If they had ever E-Bolted the A-5, I would have done that.
However, I plan to either get an E-Tac or an Ion.
Just once in my life, i would like to have a brand-new marker ...
Every one I have (except my C3 from Tippmann) was used.

[evilelvis]

I have a "normal" gun.... doesnt matter how normal it is if you only making games in leap years

[hwayhzrd]

evilelvis said:

I have a "normal" gun.... doesnt matter how normal it is if you only making games in leap years

The man's got a point ...

But I got no training, no skills and can't move, so I need every advantage I can get!

[evilelvis]

hwayhzrd said:

evilelvis said:

I have a "normal" gun.... doesnt matter how normal it is if you only making games in leap years

The man's got a point ...

But I got no training, no skills and can't move, so I need every advantage I can get!

lol that meant to say doesnt matter how nice your gun is if sittinf in totes not being used for years.

[hwayhzrd]

For those who have not seen one ...